Chairs

I’ve been buying gaming chairs, cheap office chairs and other crap since going full WFH at the beginning of the Pandemic. Reading this community’s recommendations and past experiences, I actually sat in a few top tier office chairs to see what might fit my needs. The final choice was the Leap by Steelcase from Crandall Remanufactured Chairs. The total experience was great. Thanks to this community, I can sit at my desk for longer than an hour without any coccyx pain!

So I've seen a lot of "is the Gesture worth it" posts here, and after 5 years of abuse I figured I'd throw in my two cents. I [bought mine brand new](https://www.reddit.com/r/OfficeChairs/comments/ngn3d1/the_wait_is_over/) in 2021 for $1200. At the time that felt like an insane amount of money to spend on a chair; but paying for quality only hurts once. The most expensive seat I've ever paid for wasn't a chair at all, it was the wheelchair I needed when my arthritis got bad. That whole experience rewired my brain about this stuff. When you've felt what it's like for your joints to give out on you, dropping a grand on something that's going to cradle your spine for 14 hours a day stops feeling like a splurge and starts feeling like maintenance. I work remotely and I am genuinely in this chair 12 to 16 hours a day, so I needed it to earn its keep. It has. A few real talk observations now that the honeymoon is long over: * The lumbar support and I broke up after one week. Too stiff, kept jabbing me in the back like it had a personal grudge. I popped it off and never missed it. * The headrest is lovely but it's a luxury, not a necessity. If your budget is tight, skip it and pocket the few hundred bucks. * One upgrade I'd actually recommend: I swapped the stock casters for the medical-grade, heavy-duty wheels. The difference in how smoothly the chair rolls is night and day. * Now the part that actually impressed me. The vinyl cover under the seat started tearing up, almost certainly because I live somewhere hot, humid, and sunny and the chair sits in it all day. I emailed Steelcase half expecting the usual runaround. Instead they just shipped me a replacement part. No interrogation, no "can you provide 14 photos and your firstborn," nothing. Just fixed it. * Other than that vinyl tear, the chair looks almost new. The frame is still shiny, the fabric hasn't pilled or faded, and I'm not exactly gentle with it. I do wipe it down and sanitize it regularly and it's the only "maintenance" that I do. Bottom line: 5 years in, zero regrets. The Gesture is built like it wants to outlive me, and Steelcase's customer service is honestly second to none. If you're on the fence, this is your sign. Buy the chair, skip the lumbar if it bugs you, and treat yourself well.

**Just wanted to circle back on this:** Thanks for all the feedback on the steelcase vs herman miller. I ended up going with a [**Steelcase Leap**](https://redditsc.com/product/B01F7B223Y?i=qvpm3qky) after seeing so many of you mention how adjustable it is for long days and how good the lumbar support is. Been using it for a while now and it's way better than my old one. No more flat cushion or sinking every time I lean back. Hi, I am writing this post because I am in urgent need of a new office chair. My current is the Steelcase Series 1 one and it's been my one and only for like 5 years now. The cushion is flat now and it squeaks and sinks whenever I lean back. I've been reading on here and and come to a realisation to either get a [**Steelcase Leap**](https://redditsc.com/product/B01F7B223Y?i=qvpm3qky), [**Herman Miller Aeron**](https://redditsc.com/product/B01N0ZUN15?i=qvpm3qky), [**Haworth Fern**](https://redditsc.com/product/B0CKMJJPX3?i=qvpm3qky) or [**LiberNovo Omni**](https://redditsc.com/product/B0FYCKPWP9?i=qvpm3qky). I don't want another cheap office chair, more like a real ergonomic mesh with solid lumbar and adjustable arms. My budget is $1,500 so I can afford each one. I thought to be loyal to Steelcase and get that Leap, however I might be missing out on something better. I honestly can't wait anymore as the summer is almost here, so I'll be working from home more and I want solid support for long days. Basically ready to pull the trigger so please help me make the final decision!

Herman Miller Aeron I know it wasn’t on your list. It’s also super expensive. Find one used in good condition They are seriously the best.

**Just wanted to circle back on this:** Thanks for all the feedback on the steelcase vs herman miller. I ended up going with a [**Steelcase Leap**](https://redditsc.com/product/B01F7B223Y?i=qvpm3qky) after seeing so many of you mention how adjustable it is for long days and how good the lumbar support is. Been using it for a while now and it's way better than my old one. No more flat cushion or sinking every time I lean back. Hi, I am writing this post because I am in urgent need of a new office chair. My current is the Steelcase Series 1 one and it's been my one and only for like 5 years now. The cushion is flat now and it squeaks and sinks whenever I lean back. I've been reading on here and and come to a realisation to either get a [**Steelcase Leap**](https://redditsc.com/product/B01F7B223Y?i=qvpm3qky), [**Herman Miller Aeron**](https://redditsc.com/product/B01N0ZUN15?i=qvpm3qky), [**Haworth Fern**](https://redditsc.com/product/B0CKMJJPX3?i=qvpm3qky) or [**LiberNovo Omni**](https://redditsc.com/product/B0FYCKPWP9?i=qvpm3qky). I don't want another cheap office chair, more like a real ergonomic mesh with solid lumbar and adjustable arms. My budget is $1,500 so I can afford each one. I thought to be loyal to Steelcase and get that Leap, however I might be missing out on something better. I honestly can't wait anymore as the summer is almost here, so I'll be working from home more and I want solid support for long days. Basically ready to pull the trigger so please help me make the final decision!

This gets asked a ton over on r/pcmasterrace but the consensus is generally that if you intend to be at your desk playing games for a long time then the best investment is in an ergonomic chair not a 'gaming' chair. Most gaming chairs are based off race car bucket seat designs, which are intended to hold you in place for short periods and are usually tilted backwards in actual cars but are bolt upright in those chairs, they actually sort of suck as far as back support goes. They do tend to be more comfortable in the short term because they often use huge amounts of foam padding. If you're in your teens or early 20s and need something comfy for the next 5 years then get a gaming chair from someone like TitanLabs. If you're older than that or you intend to keep it for 10 years plus then the usual recommendations are Herman Millar, HumanScale and SteelCase. All of which make very well constructed chairs with good support and long warranty periods. And all of which will cost you a fair amount of money. (though Herman Millar Aerons can often be found used online when offices change their equipment, they last for 20 years or more so used ones are fine)

Added a new chair to the mix, my last office chair has been killing me and I decided to take advantage of the 25% of Herman Millers right now. Picked up in store too, which saved me 100$ in shipping. PC Specs: 9900X3D// 3080 // 32GB // 4TB WD M.2 Monitor: Alienware OLED (QHD // 144 Hz) Audio: KEF LS 50 Metas NAD M10v2 for the KEFs Artuia Minifuze for Headphones ( DT 770 PRO X ) Keychron Q1 HE 8K Magnetic Switch Keyboard Logi G502 X Mousepad - Secret Labs Desk Matt Herman Miller Embody Logitech Edition

Found this guy for $150 online not too far away. Immediately messaged the seller and picked it up the same day. Honestly, I was looking for a Herman Miller Aeron. Didn't know what the Embody even was. After finding this, I googled it and was SHOCKED how expensive it is. Even more expensive than the Aeron?? So I immediately grabbed it lol. Really nice, very amazing upgrade from my \~$20 Bezos Basics office chair I've been using for 5 years now.. and for only $150! Aside from a few minor scratches, it's in good condition and working well! Seller told me they had it in storage for 8 years and got it from their old job. Would never buy it for how much it costs new, but at this price barely used? Heck yeah!

Hey guys, I've had the LiberNovo Omni for about a month now. I work from home 3 days a week and I'm a messive gamer, like 4+ hours a day for gaming. I also own a regular Herman Miller Embody, so I figured I'd share my experience of both chairs. I know a lot of people are stuck in that exact spot. Headrest: The Embody doesn't have one. Based HM says you don't need it if you're sitting right. For upright, that's totally fine. Emm... but once I lean back, it's a problem for me. The top of the chair hits right at my shoulders, so my head just kind of hangs there, which gets annoying. The Omni is pretty soft and it doesn't feel like you're leaning against a stiff piece of plastic. Backrest: The Embody is flatter. I feel like I have to let my body to find the support and sit right. While the Omni has more of that wrap-around feel. It feels more natural the second you sit down, like the chair is coming to meet your back. Armrests: I also noticed a big difference here. The Embody is good for typing, but since I play a lot of controller games, the Omni is better. I can angle the arms inward so they actually support my forearms while I'm holding a controller or my iphone. Seat: I love that the Embody has an adjustable seat depth because I like to sit cross-legged while I work. The Omni's seat length is fixed, just fits me well. I'm not really sitting cross-legged while gaming anyway, so as long as my feet are on the floor or a footrest, it's not an issue. Recline: The Embody doesn't lean back nearly as far as the Omni. 160 degrees on the Omni is great because if I'm wiped out, I can chill on it.

Someone here posted about saving up for a Herman Miller chair and I thought about a recent experience I had with my Herman Miller chair that I should share here, since it really applies to this sub. I was once a lawyer and about 10 years ago I decided to reward my backside by splurging on a Herman Miller Embody chair. I loved it and got a lot of great use out of it. Eventually, I left the legal profession and my chair went into storage. I recently took on another office job and brought my chair out of storage, but sadly, one of the adjustable arms wasn't functioning properly. I looked around to see what it would cost to repair the chair myself because I figured there was no way it was still under warranty after 10 years. I called my local Herman Miller dealer and they put me in touch with a Herman Miller customer service rep. I told him what was going on and he said, "No problem we'll send out a repair guy to replace the arm for you!" It took about 30 days for the repair guy to get the part and within a few days he drove an hour and a half to my office to fix my chair. No cost. I want to make it clear that I am not being paid in any way by Herman Miller to make this post. I am just a big fan of their customer service and will be a customer for life! They clearly stand behind their products in a way that most companies don't.

Hi everyone who is looking for a good chair. :) I would like to share my and my wife's experience in an interesting and long search. First of all, I work on a computer in the gaming industry for a minimum of 8 hours, 48+ per week. I am 190 cm tall and weigh 90 kg (of course, after the holidays, in my stomach), but generally have a thinner build. My wife, who is a programmer, sits for a lot fewer hours; she is 175 cm tall and weights around 85 kg. So I think it would be more relevant that with that information you could additionally make a decision on which chair would suit you. FIRST AND MOST IMPORTANT THING: YOU MUST TRY ALL CHAIRS PERSONALLY FOR AT LEAST 15-20 MINUTES ON EACH ONE!!!!!!!! Adjust according to your build and then make a decision; don't order or take it blindly. There is a high chance that you will make a mistake. In short, I first sat on a wooden kitchen chair for 3 years, then on a gaming chair, and, of course, ordered free lumbar pain and bad sitting lessons. After almost 6 years of doing this job, I decided to invest in a chair, in addition to exercising. In Novi Sad, of all possible models, we tested the Herman Miller Sayl, Aeron, Mirra 2, and Embody. When I sat on the Sayl, it seemed like it was too small for me and too heavy. The Aeron was not small, but it was too rough for me. The Embody had a subtle feeling like a cloud but was somehow light. While the Mirra 2 was the golden mean for what I was looking for. While my wife, when she tried the Sayl, couldn't get out of it. When she tried the others, she wasn't as comfortable as this one. Last week we went to Zmajeva 12V in Belgrade and tried out the Gesture, Leap V2, and Please V2 chairs from Steelcase. In my experience, the Leap V2 is the most comfortable. Please has the best back support and is also comfortable, but the Gesture is multifunctional. The headrest is perhaps the best on the market, and the armrest is phenomenal; it somehow hugs you, and it is a little harder than these two, but that is more from the anatomical side, which is good for my lumbar area, which I have had a problem with for a long time. It makes me sit properly, and it feels good because it holds me sooooo well; you don't lean back too much in it in any position. It may be a problem for some, but as I said, it's best to try it. My wife's experience has shown that the Please chair, for her build and weight, was ideal. I think that this please, Steelcase, has neither advertising nor mention, but if you tried it, you would be thrilled. For her, the Gesture was tall and stiff, but the headrest was phenomenal, while the Leap was extra comfortable, but she didn't like the headrest at all. I got a recommendation from colleagues for [https://crandalloffice.com/](https://crandalloffice.com/) , [https://offeco.nl/en/](https://offeco.nl/en/), and [https://www.btod.com/](https://www.btod.com/) , but I think I'll most likely take Crandall Office, because for 60% of the total price of the new Leap, I'll also get a 12-year warranty, new double foam on the seat and reclining part, all new hydraulic and plastic parts replaced, and this plus new headrest that I tried at a friend's and it's phenomenal. So, I hope I didn't overdo it, that I could at least help people with their choices. And of course, each according to their own abilities. But my wife and I have always been favorites for good used things rather than new ones. Best regards.

Same here! I'm 5'0 and nothing fits LOL. I bought a Herman Miller Sayl chair with adjustable everything and it's wonderful, but of course if my feet touch the ground the table/desk is too tall 😆 So I use a footrest so I can reach the table properly

Can't go wrong with Herman Miller. They even have gaming specific chairs partnered with Logitech because the market was there for it. But the prices are astronomical when you buy them brand new. $1000-2500 range especially with the adjustable add ons. If you go to an office liquidation place, they will likely have similar chairs like the Aeron for under $500-600 used. I bought a [Sayl](https://nationalofficeinteriors.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/Herman-Miller-Sayl-Used-White-Back-Task-Chair-Light-Gray-01.jpg) for $200 used (not a gaming chair though) with the original sale sticker of $[740](https://i.imgur.com/PeZmDw6.png). It's an extremely high quality product compared to the typical Staples level chair. Plus you can buy cheap replacement parts for them online from other people who part them out on eBay, instead of buying a whole new chair when something goes wrong. Check on Facebook Marketplace for Aeron models. There will likely be some sort of liquidators showing up in your results with various models fully loaded well under $600. There are headrests available for the Aeron.

I'm sharing an overview of my desk, where I spend most of my days working (I'm a freelance graphic designer) and gaming when I have a moment. The big recent change is my new chair. I ditched my old IKEA chair, which was uncomfortable during long days, for a much more complete model from Autonomous: adjustments in all directions, better support, and a mesh seat that breathes much better than what I had before. With my back problems, it really makes a difference—I end my days feeling much less tense. I had my doubts about the mesh at first, but after several days, it's been a pleasant surprise. If anyone has any advice on maintenance or feedback on the durability of the seat, I'm all ears (my previous chair quickly accumulated stains that were impossible to remove). The armrests are also more useful than I expected: I don't use them much for work, but for playing on the console, in a more relaxed position, they're really comfortable. For the rest: Mac Mini M4, LG 32UD89-W monitor, XP-Pen tablet, iPad Air, MX Keys/MX Master, Switch OLED, Xbox Series X, Analogue Pocket, Bose + Sony WH-1000XM3. A simple and clean setup, designed for work... and extending the day with a little gaming session. Please feel free to suggest changes to improve my setup. Or if you have questions about specific elements.

I’m 6'5", 255 lbs, and sit for loooong drawing sessions. Had a minor back injury from a workout accident. Flares up occasionally. After years of bad chairs adding to that pain and flaring up my sciatica after work, I switched to something more ergonomic from Autonomous. Its got proper seat depth for long legs (no more digging into the back of my thighs). Arm support that finally lines up with my desk so my elbows aren’t floating. All of that makes long workdays noticeably easier on my body. The lumbar support is the real MVP. There is gonna be a setup curve to getting it just right but it's sigh of relief-inducing once it's set. I spent a day or two dialing it in but once set, posture feels natural and I’m no longer ending days sore even after pulling an all nighter. Easy to assemble but obviously I had some help 🤣 Too early for long-term verdicts, but so far my back is happier and my setup still looks good...hopefully 🤣 PS: Saw a post earlier today about work AND play chairs, and this can definitely kickback.

I just picked up and finished assembling the Staples Hyken Pro. It's on a pretty crazy sale on the Staples site atm, I won't link it as I'm not sure what the rules around that are, but I'm sure you could find it easily enough. Anyways, this chair must have just been released a few weeks ago, can't even find a review on Youtube. All the staples website reviews seem to be customers that were given the product for free, so I don't trust any of them. I was using the Autonomous ErgoChair 2 (not even the "pro" which seems to be the exact same chair I had.) for almost 6 years, and honestly it held up great, not much negative to say about it, it's just naturally wobbly and a bit stiff/uncomfortable. To me this is far more comfortable and offers better lumbar support than just a cushion you can move up and down poking through the back mesh. Has some very nice assembly instructions and hardware, the hardware actually has a card within each pouch that has the exact step it's needed for printed on it which is about as "user friendly" as bolts and an Alan key could realistically be. The seat is very comfortable, but I wouldn't say it's going to be comfortable "all day". It's medium firm, but does have a lot of cushion to it and doesn't feel like I'm sitting on plastic like the ErgoChair did. Lumbar support can be adjusted with twist knobs behind the support mesh of the backrest itself, 3 notches that basically tilt it further out/up. The headrest has height and angle adjustments, at 6'1'' I have to deliberately lean back to feel it properly but when reclining slightly it works well. Back rest is perfectly fine and has plenty of tension without needing to be adjusted (thankfully, because there's no tension adjustment like the ergochair and I'm sure much nicer chairs have.) **EDIT: Oh hey, I lied, there's another knob underneath the right side with 4 notched adjustment selections that change the recliner tension when leaning back. By default it's on the highest, but obviously you can adjust to your liking.** Arms are a rounded plastic with I'd say 5-10% give if you \*really\* push into them, but for the most part they're a hard plastic, albeit smooth all around with no sharp edges. They can be tilt adjusted left and right, height adjusted and length adjusted forward and back. They're perfectly serviceable, but kind of a wide stance, certainly too wide for typing most times. Recliner has 3 lockable angles, or you can leave the adjustment lever all the way down to unlock it at all times, and the height adjustment of the seat works exactly like you'd expect. No seat tilt or forward/back adjustments here, but it's not a problem for me, everything seems to be set up just fine for someone of my height. Either way, just hoping to clear up any questions people have about this chair because I could barely find anything on it before buying mine. I'd definitely recommend adding your roller blade/quad bearing wheel of choice as the stock wheels are as cheap and flimsy as they come. tl;dr it's a solid chair at the price I paid (215.99 plus shipping) and it retails for 429.99 normally. I'm not complaining one bit.

Just finished my first full work week with the Autonomous ErgoChair Pro and figured I'd share my experience. I'm a Digital Product Designer and decided to upgrade mainly for aesthetic reasons and because my previous chair lacked a proper headrest for those relaxed moments. My old chair was actually quite decent, but I wanted something that looked cleaner in my plant filled workspace and had better support for leaning back. The ErgoChair Pro delivers on both fronts. The mesh design fits perfectly with my jungle office aesthetic, and that headrest is great for those moments when I lean back to think through design problems. The lumbar support is solid and the overall comfort during long Figma sessions has been good. Here's where it gets interesting though. The armrests work differently depending on what you're doing. For relaxing or the occasional gaming session with a controller, they're actually quite comfortable. But during intensive keyboard and mouse work, they force my arms wider than feels natural. The wide positioning and concave shape push my elbows outward, which creates some tension during those long design sprints. It's not a dealbreaker, but definitely something to consider if you spend most of your day typing and using a mouse intensively. For gaming and relaxing, the armrests are actually pretty nice. For context, I'm 178cm and weigh just under 75kg, so not exactly a broad shouldered guy. What I really appreciate during extended work hours is how the seat cushioning stays comfortable. No "hard butt" feeling even after 8+ hour days, and the back support keeps me in proper posture so I don't end up with back pain by evening. The ability to lean back occasionally with that headrest support is perfect for those thinking moments, plus I get to admire my plant collection while contemplating design solutions. Overall, I'm happy with the upgrade. Got the aesthetic improvement and headrest I wanted, just with a trade off in armrest positioning during intensive work periods. At least my plants seem to approve of the new addition to their jungle domain!

Planning my next upgrade. I’ve been using an IKEA desk for a while, but running into an issue where the cable management tray underneath interferes with my footrest. Considering swapping to the white Secretlab Magnus, any other suggestions is welcome! PC - Nanoq S - 9800X3D - 5090 - MORA IV 400 Desk&Chair - Libernovo Omni - IKEA UTESPELARE Audio - KEF LSX II LT - Hifiman Arya Stealth & JDS Labs element IV Keyboard - Wind X80 Classic Polycarbonate + PBTfans X-ray

Recently bought the Secretlab Titan Evo XL in the White 'Nanogen'. Let's just say it was a lot brighter white than i was expecting it to be in my head! I've slowly started adding drops of white to the rest of the setup to compensate. I hear good things about their desks so might eventually consider the white one they have.. but it's a tough price point to justify. Any questions or suggestions on what to add next let me know. Trying to make the chair not loud as loud an overpowering in the setup. Was thinking of adding acoustic panelling to the wall somewhere and getting some kind of rug.. already starting to damage the carpet.. oops. Then eventually look to change the case and aesthetics of the PC to add a white case and maybe Lian Li RGB fans.

Hi everyone, Creating this post to share my experience with the new **SecretLab ATLAS LARGE**. To give you some context, I’m one of those people who actually loves SecretLab for what they are: a good, big, firm chair. I’ve owned the original Titan for almost 6 years, and my wife has had the Titan Evo for 2 years. I’ve never had a single complaint about my Titan, I can sit in it for 20 hours straight without any issues. Since I work from home 3 days a week and gaming is my main passion, I spend a *lot* of time at my desk. I wanted to treat myself to their latest model, the ATLAS. For reference, I’m **1m87 (6'1") and 110kg (242lbs)**. Unfortunately, it’s a massive disappointment for me, and I’ve already started the return process. Here is why: # 1. The Ergonomics & Height (Dealbreaker for tall people) Right from the first sit, I knew there was a major issue. The wheelbase sits lower and the seat cushion itself is less bulky. As a result, the chair simply doesn't go high enough. It is clearly too low for my height. To get any support under my thighs, I have to spread my feet wide apart to the sides of the chair. If I put my legs straight in front of me, they don’t even touch the seat cushion, which makes it very uncomfortable. # 2. The Adjustable Seat Depth The new feature that allows you to slide the seat forward is cool on paper. However, doing so leaves a massive gap between the backrest and the seat. Honestly, you can really feel it; it feels like my butt is falling right into the gap. # 3. The Tilt & Recline Mechanism * **The Good:** The upright locking mechanism works perfectly. I prefer sitting completely straight, and it delivers on that. * **The Bad:** Once unlocked, even with the tension set to the absolute maximum, there is barely any resistance. I feel like I’m "falling" backward way too easily. On my old Titan, I get great support when upright, but I can also lean back progressively. The recline angle on the ATLAS just feels way too intense. (Granted, this is personal preference, I've never understood the appeal of laying completely flat in an office chair). On top of that, I miss being able to lock the tilt at a slight, less aggressive angle like I can on the Titan. # Conclusion Overall, the ATLAS is a letdown for me. If you are tall (anything over 1m80 / 5'11") or on the heavier side, I really don't think this is the chair for you. I'm heading back to my trusty 6-year-old Titan for now. Let me know if you have any questions before I ship it back! **UPDATE:** After spending about 7 hours sitting in this chair, here is the verdict: * **Neck pain:** Because the tilt mechanism lacks resistance, I find myself constantly leaning forward to keep the chair from tilting back too easily. My neck is completely compensating for it. * **Tailbone pain:** That huge gap between the seat and the backrest is a killer. It is putting way too much pressure on my coccyx. Yep, it’s a real shame, but this is definitely going back. 😞

So I’m writing this on behalf of my partner. **Situation:** My partner recently bought the **Magnus Evo**, when she had actually meant to purchase the **Magnus Pro**. Within under 24 hours, we contacted customer support to try and either change the order to the correct desk, or cancel it completely. They said changing the order was not possible. They also said cancelling it was not possible, even though the item had not actually been picked up by the courier yet. Because of this, my partner immediately reordered the correct desk, the **Magnus Pro**, with the intention of refusing delivery of the Evo, or worst case, sending it back ourselves at what we assumed would be a reasonable cost. However, when the delivery arrived, the driver from BJS said we could not refuse delivery of just the Evo because everything had been sent as one consignment. That meant if we refused it, we would also have had to refuse the correct desk as well. I’ve now been looking at return quotes, but I’m having to estimate the weight based on Google because the shipping label says **13.333kg**, which is wildly off. The quotes I’m getting are around **£200** to return an item that we tried to cancel before it was even sent. **My thoughts:** I completely understand that we should still pay their original shipping cost, so I’m not expecting a refund on Secretlab’s delivery fee. Honestly, I’d even accept being charged another £25–£50 if they sent us a prepaid return label. But at the moment, it feels like we have been given literally no reasonable option. What I don’t understand is why the package was sent as one consignment. Surely, if they were able to consolidate everything into one delivery, they could also have stopped just one part of the order, even if we still had to pay the original shipping cost. The company is otherwise amazing when it comes to their products, but after being shafted like this, I honestly don’t know if I still want to use them for my desk and chair. **Question:** Has anyone had any experience with this, and what did you end up having to do? Obviously, I know this is partly on us because it was a change of mind / wrong item ordered situation, so I’m not expecting anything for free. I just think there should be a more reasonable option than paying around £200 to return something we tried to cancel before it even left them. Any advise would be greatly appreciated. **Update:** Secret labs have agreed to a complimentary return of this and to further investigate. From my perspective i am happy with this as the outcome but would obviously caution anyone tobreally double check though i would hope they would adjust things so orders can be stopped if required. I will update this post once we have any further information or to at least confirm how our refund came back and if it was the full amount. Appreciate everyones kind support on this. And thank you jinx for getting this looked at.

I finally broke down and replaced my 10-15 year old Serta Hensley with a ProtoArc EC200. I received the chair from ProtoArc to provide feedback, but after lurking on this sub for a long time I also wanted to share my honest thoughts after a couple months with the EC200. For context, I’m 6’0”, 240 lbs, and I work from home full-time. On most days I’m sitting 8–14 hours so my chair gets a lot of use. First off, I was surprised how small the box was for an office chair. The assembly was simple and everything went together without any issues. Attaching the headrest was probably the most time consuming part, and that was just because I didn't read the instructions correctly. Once it was built the chair felt solid without any additional adjustments.  The biggest difference from the Serta is the firmer, more supportive feel. The Serta was cushioned like a recliner, while the EC200 is definitely more about posture and ergonomics. The lumbar support is noticeable, and the mesh back helps with airflow, which I've been appreciating during long workdays. The chair fits me very well for my size. I don’t feel cramped, and the available adjustments work well for me. I can tell the difference the extra support has made compared to the Serta. My back doesn't hurt after the extra long days like it had in the past. Two features I’ve really liked are the seat depth adjustment and the adjustable headrest. I didn’t expect to see those features at this price point, and it actually makes a big difference getting the chair dialed in.  I haven't noticed degradation of any of the parts. The height stays where I have it set, the arms are very stable, and there aren't any squeaks or other noises when moving around.  That said, I do have some nitpicks. The wide armrest pads are comfortable, but only having the height adjustment leads to me having to adjust them more frequently than I'd like based on my seating position. Although I wasn't expecting it at this price point, some type of inward/outward adjustments would have eliminated this need. I heard that they may offer upgraded armrests in the future, so I'll definitely be watching for them. The seat is also on the firmer side. It’s supportive, but if you’re coming from a thick padded chair like I was it takes some getting used to. On long days (12+ hours) I find myself shifting around a bit more than I did in my old chair.   Overall I think the EC200 is an excellent value chair. It has more ergonomic features than any other chairs I've seen around this price. With minor adjustments it’s been very comfortable for my long workdays. The Serta was a staple in my office for so long that it will definitely be missed, but I've been really happy that I made the switch.

I have worked from home since the beginning of COVID. Since then, I buy a new Serta office chair from Sam's every 2 years. When it's new, the chair is very comfortable. The seat cushions are great and so are the armrest and back support. After those 2-ish years, my back starts getting severe pain when I sit for more than 2 hours. My wife has the Branch Ergonomic Chair Pro and loves it. I have tried it for a few hours and while my back pain was resolved, I didn't find the butt cushions very comfortable. The arm rest were also too stiff. I have seen some YouTube reviews of the Steelcase Series 1 and it seems like I might have the same issues as the Branch. It also looks like I might be too tall for it. I'm 5'11" and 250 lbs. I would like to find a chair that's comfortable and not stiff. Also, one that would last more than 2 years. Preferably, I would like to spend only $500-$600. Maybe that's wishful thinking but let me know if you have any suggestions!

https://preview.redd.it/716mm9mfix5h1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=12bf8a48cc42a0363197fd268587d21cbada45f1 I also recently had a bad experience with an ergonomic chair. It definitely contributed to my back pain, my theory is ergo is great for office work where you’re still, but as you say, it doesn’t seem like if you’re moving around you get the proper support. I pc game and play solo board games often. I decided to go with “executive” style office chairs. My first priority was enough cushion for my bony butt. I was able to try out different chairs at a big box store in the U.S. called Office Depot, and picked the Serta Mosby (Serta makes mattresses which is hilarious that was the level of cushion i needed) After a couple of days, my bottom was great but my lumbar was the only part of my back not getting support, leading to pain. This was because I am taller so the natural lumbar was lower than ideal. I solved that by getting a memory foam samsonite lumbar cushion which trumps any lumbar feature or add on I’ve experienced on an ergo chair. The leaning feature is weak, but comfort wise man, I’d recommend this any day over an ergo chair.

I have a Serta office chair... comfortable with lumbar support. However, I am short and my feet barely touch the ground. I hate using a foot stool. So I usually end up sitting cross-legged, and my lower back is paying for it. I tried a kneeling chair once in store, and immediately I felt less pain in my lower back. However, not sure how these would be for very long hours. I've also seen good reviews on chairs such as Hag Capisco for lower back issues. TL;DR - what are you recommendations for office chairs for short people with lower back pain? Preferably under $400 USD, but I'm flexible if it's an 11/10 chair.

I was going to order a secretlab chair, but i read their customer service sucked so i went with a noblechairs instead. Hope it gets solved for you.

I went with a noblechairs HERO TX Fabric, have had it for around 3 weeks now, its sturdy and comfy. I have never had a gaming chair before so i cant really compare it to any other gaming chair. But so far i love it and it feels perfect.

Nah, I wouldn't say they are from my experience at least. Been sitting on a Noblechairs Hero for like 5 years. Honestly, it was too big of a chair for me and was like sitting on a perpendicular piece of wood most of the time. It was good to recline in and kick my legs up, but it was by no means a supportive chair. Eventually, the PU leather started to tear and cut into my leg so I decided it was time to try something "proper" after giving that a good run. Long-story short, went and tried some secondhand Aerons and Steelcase Leap V2 at a local seller's place. The Leap V2 felt really good from the moment I sat in it. Tonnes of adjustability, felt very supportive, etc. No smell, good condition. Picked it up and have been using it for around a month now. Honestly? It's been great. I sound like captain obvious here, but I've never felt more supported in a chair before. I have no back strain anymore, and I can sit in this chair for a while without issue. And if you can watch some videos on how to shop for these types of chairs secondhand (what to look for, what to avoid, etc), you can definitely snag a good deal and reduce the blow. So yeah, I'd say go for a secondhand one first before splurging. I'd also recommend you go and actually try any chair before you buy it.

Have u considered the Techni Mobili chairs? I got one and its been great for my back, especially if you're sitting for 12 hours a day. Definitely worth checking out

I'm in Germany and looking for a new desk chair, but I think my requirements are the opposite of what most ergonomic chair recommendations focus on. For years I sat on a very basic dining/living room chair (photo attached). It had a flat seat, a mostly flat backrest, no lumbar support, no armrests, and no ergonomic features whatsoever. Despite spending a lot of time at my desk, I never had any back issues. Recently I bought a ProtoArc EC200. At first I thought the lumbar support was the problem, but I completely removed it and I'm still having issues. The chair feels like it locks my pelvis and lower back into a specific position. I feel like I sit too deep in the corner between the seat and backrest, forcing my pelvis forward and creating a lower-back curve my body simply doesn't want. The weird part is that I usually don't feel pain while sitting. Instead, I get stiffness and lower-back pain the next day, often lasting for days. What makes this especially strange is that I've never had issues with hard seating. University lecture halls, trains, waiting rooms, benches, even sitting on concrete slabs for hours have caused me much less discomfort than this chair. My current theory is that highly contoured ergonomic chairs simply don't suit me. Yet it seems like almost every modern office chair is designed this way. I'm 187 cm (6'2") and about 80 kg (176 lbs). Things I don't care about: \-fancy ergonomics \-aggressive lumbar support \-mesh backs \-lots of adjustments \-armrests What I think I want: \-neutral geometry \-a relatively flat seat and backrest \-freedom to move around \-a sturdy structure that doesn't creak \-something I sit on, not in I'm even considering a Secretlab Titan Evo because many complaints about it seem to be that it's too flat, too firm, and not ergonomic enough—which honestly sounds closer to what I might want. One more thing: I'm in Germany. The used market for premium office chairs is nowhere near as good as many US-based recommendations assume. Most used Herman Miller / Steelcase listings I've found are either rare, heavily worn, or still surprisingly expensive, so I'd appreciate recommendations for chairs that can realistically be bought new in Europe as well. Has anyone had a similar experience and ended up happier with a more neutral chair?

Ordered Thursday, came today. Got the black cloth regular size one with no extra accessories. Aside from being really heavy it's great! Huge basic instruction sheet (really all you need, but it has a qr code to a more detailed set of directions). AMAZING packaging with a "tool kit".1 9 screws total (4 to remove and reinsert to attach the back, 4 to attach the base, and one to remove from the locking plastic for the recline). Very easy to assemble most everything is METAL except for the magnetic pop on stuff. This chair is much nicer than the others that give you a tiny allen wrench a 2 sheet piece of crap instructions with plastic caps to cover screw holesthat pop off. Very nice and firm compared to my old respawn that went flat to metal on the seat, cracked and every piece wiggled no matter how tight the screws were. Quite impressed with it, so far feel it's worth the money. Would recommend!

Hello, I wanted to ask if anyone could help me find a office chair. I'm \~5'7 ft (upper end of 5'6 ft) at 145 lbs with a budget of $325 USD max (excluding shipping and tax.) I'll buy both new and used if possible. I've heard of brands like Steelcase but I want to narrow down the selection. I've tried looking for local listings on Facebook Marketplace (United States east coast) though I didn't see many listings. I'm coming from a Respawn gaming chair (rookie mistake?) and all of the pleather has flaked off making the chair very uncomfortable to use (the holes in the pleather is scrapping on my skin) and the chair is a bit oversized too. I primarily spend \~4 to \~7.2 hours using my workstation programming (lots of typing) and playing video games (moving my right wrist a lot). I've already cooked my right wrist from a bad chair and technique so hopefully I can mediate that with a proper chair (though it might be beyond reversal.) I do not have any pets.

Hi, looking to get a new chair for remote working and gaming specifically to help posture and improve back pain. I’ve looked at secretlabs, sihoo, razer, corsair but unsure which to go for or if any other chairs are recommended please let me know

I have the Corsair T-Rush, however, it's hurting my back, and as a medical student, I spend many hours sitting. I was thinking of the C7 Max… is it any good? If not, which one would you recommend in the $300-$400 range?

As someone who bought the desk two years ago (and coincidentally also used to live in Ireland just before that) I can only recommend looking into alternatives. I don't know how many devices you are planning to use but for me I made countless reconfiguration efforts only to fit in all my plugs into the magnus pro XL tray. It's not that big. As someone who uses pretty much everything Elgato offers I should have looked more into their desk like the Corsair Platform:6. Also secretlabs' customer service is pretty bad, probably not worth investing in.

Hello, I’ve been browsing the site for a while and still skeptical on buying. I am a 6’9 Slim male and buying a chair for me is like questioning if a large shirt will fit me or not. Looking to see if any other taller gents have purchased one and if so which. I’ve had a Corsair T3 fabric for the past 5 years it’s been a great chair but time for a switch. Trading my Walmart tee for a prada tee

I sit for 7 to 8 hours a day at my study table and need a genuinely comfortable ergonomic chair. I’ve shortlisted the following options so far: Wakefit Albus Prime and Green Soul Zodiac and astride ergofit Any recommendations or feedback?

I’m planning to buy a new office chair and have been looking at options in the mid range. I’ve heard of both Green Soul and Cellbell and that they're decent at their pricepoint. Which one offers better comfort for long sitting hours, build quality, and adjustment options? Also in terms of overall value for money, which brand would you personally lean toward?

Hey guys, Looking for an ergonomic chair under ₹10k for long sitting (8–10 hours). Which brand is actually reliable in India? Featherlite, Green Soul, Sleep Company, or something else? Just want good comfort + durability. Would appreciate real user suggestions 🙏

I need to upgrade my WFH desk setup because my current study chair's seat foam has gone completely flat and my lower back is paying the price. I’m looking closely at The Sleep Company Onyx ergonomic chair, but it’s definitely a bit of an investment compared to Greensoul chairs. The main thing drawing me to it is that it has a SmartGRID seat instead of foam which as per company claims is better for back and tailbone support. I usually sit for 9+ hours a day for work, and I need a good chair for my back. I’m also looking at getting a Green Soul chair as an alternative, since they are pretty popular and a bit cheaper, but I worry the foam seat on those won’t be great fot long hours of work. For anyone who has used the Onyx chair long-term I have a few questions: Does the grid seat actually support your posture? And is it too firm? Does it hurt your tailbone after a while? If you've used a Green Soul chair before, how does the Onyx compare? Is it a smart financial investment? Do you have any regrets? Please let me know.

I’m interested in buying the #1 recommended chair on Reddit… the Herman Miller Aeron. I just don’t quite understand how the price of the same chair, same size, and apparently same build is about half (or even less) on Amaz*n compared to the official website. The seller on Amaz*n appears to be the official Herman Miller brand, so I have no idea why it’s so much cheaper there. I’m also considering buying one from FB Marketplace, but there are so many people selling them that I’m a little worried some might be fake. Any advice on what to look for on FB Marketplace to make sure I get a genuine one? Should I go with the Amaz*n pricing? What do y’all think? Note: typing Amaz*n that way was the only option to make a post. Reddit thought I was putting an Amaz*n link of some sort ?? 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️

1) No 2) Work. fully remote worker and will be used daily for hours upon hours 3) Back issues and sciatica. I need an upgrade 4) US I used to have a Herman Miller Aeron when I was in the office pre-COVID. I then got an office chair from Amazon that I have been using ever since and cannot ever seem to luck out on finding a great deal off Marketplace or anywhere else so I stubbornly waiting until then while sitting on a $150 desk chair that I desperately need to upgrade. Thanks for considering me.

Cheap: Office chair Medium: Corsair or Secret Lab High budget: Herman Miller Don’t get the cheap Amazon chaird

amazon basics ftw :P

Same currently using r1 pro Just love it I have previously used the razer deathadder essential so it was a HUGE difference for me

Hi, looking to get a new chair for remote working and gaming specifically to help posture and improve back pain. I’ve looked at secretlabs, sihoo, razer, corsair but unsure which to go for or if any other chairs are recommended please let me know

Literally changed the encoder (scroll) on my Razer Deathadder V3 Pro (3rd RMA unit btw) because of the scroll wheel issues. I would highly recommend to stay away from their products only because of scroll wheel issues. V2X is pretty heavy too because it’s needs a battery. And it’s pretty old too. Also it is not listed for 14k it’s just for 3K so you’re not really getting any discounts. Always check US pricing for actual comparison. In this budget I’d actually recommend you to check Meckeys, they have some of the best budget wireless gaming mice. Check reviews before buying anything. For context: I own Razer Viper Mini Razer Deathadder V2 Mini Razer Atheris Razer Deathadder V3 Pro Razer Orochi V2 (2nd RMA unit because of sensor issue)

Hello! I am Seth, im 24 years old and I have a problem. I overpaid for a Razer brand "gaming chair" 1000$ to be precise and Its the worst purchase I think Ive ever made it is the single most uncomfortable gaming chair I think ive ever had. I like to game/stream on twitch for long periods of time and sit at my desk/computer, but I've always been really concerned about my lower back/buttocks area health especially after I got a herniated disc/have been frequently waking up with lower back pain/having lower back aches/pains for awhile now. So I'm REALLY concerned about it, PLUS Its just really uncomfortable even with extra lumbar support pads and the like from Amazon, so, I'm looking for a good office chair for gaming/long term sessions using my art tablet or doing novel/story writing work on my computer that will not have my lower back hating me after a few hours spent inside said chair. Because its such a drag I don't even use that computer/go weeks/days without even booting up my PC anymore because I don't wanna sit inside this awful chair anymore.

You'll only care about the RGB for a month..... Get the PNY or ASUS Prime. Use the savings on more storage.

My dad has been getting serious back pain and his chair is about 20 years old. He's stubborn but now pain took over it. Please suggest some best quality chairs for him 😽. Gave a thought for The sleep company's chair with massager inbuilt but looks overpriced for 22k

I’m looking to upgrade my work chair and I’ve narrowed it down to three options: * Drogo: Flow360 Ergonomic Chair * SuperErgo: The Chief * The Sleep Company: Ultron I work long hours at a desk, so lumbar support, seat comfort, and build quality matter more than looks. Price-wise, they’re all in a similar range, so I’m trying to decide based on real-world use. If you’ve owned or tried any of these: * How’s the comfort after 8+ hours? * Any issues with build quality? * How’s after-sales support? Also open to alternatives in the same price range if you think these aren’t worth it. Thanks. https://preview.redd.it/w8phlowl68ag1.jpg?width=1412&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=68717b205b34ca7e5077c54629296e054c4a577f EDIT: Bought SuperErgo, Chair Review : [https://www.reddit.com/r/ErgonomicIndia/s/ZZTDkoJMgz](https://www.reddit.com/r/ErgonomicIndia/s/ZZTDkoJMgz)

I need to upgrade my WFH desk setup because my current study chair's seat foam has gone completely flat and my lower back is paying the price. I’m looking closely at The Sleep Company Onyx ergonomic chair, but it’s definitely a bit of an investment compared to Greensoul chairs. The main thing drawing me to it is that it has a SmartGRID seat instead of foam which as per company claims is better for back and tailbone support. I usually sit for 9+ hours a day for work, and I need a good chair for my back. I’m also looking at getting a Green Soul chair as an alternative, since they are pretty popular and a bit cheaper, but I worry the foam seat on those won’t be great fot long hours of work. For anyone who has used the Onyx chair long-term I have a few questions: Does the grid seat actually support your posture? And is it too firm? Does it hurt your tailbone after a while? If you've used a Green Soul chair before, how does the Onyx compare? Is it a smart financial investment? Do you have any regrets? Please let me know.